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Dr. Katie Nall (she/her)

Dr. Nall joined Momma on June 12, 2023 live on Twitch to talk about Emotional Debt/Wealth & WAFFLES

About Dr. Nall

Not only does our next guest have her Ph.D. in Mathematics Education, she also is a two-time TEDx speaker, a professional member of National Speakers Association, a trained DISC Personality instructor, and an Accredited Master Trainer and Certified Practitioner in Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT) with additional training in trauma, quantum, and picture EFT. Whether in person or online, Dr. Nall shows others how to dissolve their WAFFLES – worry, anxiety, fear, frustration, lethargy, exhaustion, and stress. A careless housekeeper and worse cook with no desire for rehabilitation, she somehow is still married to the same person for over 49 years.

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Episode Summary

In this enlightening episode of Even Tacos Fall Apart, we engage in a profound conversation on the intriguing topic of "Emotional Debt versus Wealth & Dissolving WAFFLES." Dr. Nall, a certified practitioner of Emotional Freedom Techniques (EFT), commonly known as tapping, delves into her expertise and shares invaluable insights on emotional well-being.

The conversation begins with an exploration of WAFFLES, an acronym that represents Worries, Anxiety, Fear, Frustration, Lethargy, Exhaustion and Stress. Dr. Nall provides a comprehensive understanding of how these emotional states can accumulate and weigh individuals down, leading to emotional debt. She emphasizes the importance of recognizing when one is living in this state, often perpetuated by societal pressures and a relentless drive to help others.

Dr. Nall introduces the concept of tapping, a powerful self-help technique that involves gently tapping on specific acupressure points on the body. She highlights its versatility in addressing a myriad of emotional issues, from stress and anxiety to trauma. She shares a compelling anecdote of a high school student whose SAT scores improved significantly after just a few tapping sessions, showcasing the transformative potential of this technique.

The conversation then pivots to the practical aspects of maintaining emotional wealth. Dr. Nall stresses the significance of self-care, encompassing nutrition, rest and exercise. She shares her personal journey of discovering the impact of nutrition on her health and well-being, emphasizing the profound connection between the mind and body.

We highlight the importance of finding joy, laughter and happiness in life. Dr. Nall quotes the "happiness advantage" and highlights the misconception of "I'll be happy when" versus the reality that happiness precedes success and fulfillment.

We then discuss the notion of emotional debt and the tendency to overextend oneself by constantly helping others without ensuring one's emotional needs are met. Dr. Nall introduces the term "Blessings Hog," emphasizing the need to allow others to share in the blessings of giving. The conversation is peppered with personal anecdotes and relatable experiences.

The conversation also explores Dr. Nall's book, "Shower Blessings, Finding Meditation Time in a Busy Life," which offers practical advice on integrating meditation and mindfulness into daily routines, particularly during moments like showers.

The conversation concludes with a discussion on the magic of meditation and the power of intention. Dr. Nall shares a beautiful concept of A-L-O-T: Ask, Listen, Obey and Thank, as a way to manifest intentions effectively.

Towards the end, Dr. Nall graciously offers her phone number to listeners, inviting them to reach out and engage in meaningful conversations. This episode provides a wealth of knowledge on managing emotions, the importance of self-care, and the transformative potential of tapping. Dr. Nall's insights and personal experiences serve as a valuable guide to achieving emotional wealth and dissolving emotional debt in our lives.

The Giving Tree

Shel Silverstein

Once there was a tree....

and she loved a little boy.

And everyday the boy would come

and he would gather her leaves

and make them into crowns

and play king of the forest.

He would climb up her trunk

and swing from her branches

and eat apples.

And they would play hide-and-go-seek.

And when he was tired,

he would sleep in her shade.

And the boy loved the tree....

very much.

And the tree was happy.

But time went by.

And the boy grew older.

And the tree was often alone.

Then one day the boy came to the tree

and the tree said, "Come, Boy, come and

climb up my trunk and swing from my

branches and eat apples and play in my

shade and be happy."

"I am too big to climb and play" said

the boy.

"I want to buy things and have fun.

I want some money?"

"I'm sorry," said the tree, "but I

have no money.

I have only leaves and apples.

Take my apples, Boy, and sell them in

the city. Then you will have money and

you will be happy."

And so the boy climbed up the

tree and gathered her apples

and carried them away.

And the tree was happy.

But the boy stayed away for a long time....

and the tree was sad.

And then one day the boy came back

and the tree shook with joy

and she said, "Come, Boy, climb up my trunk

and swing from my branches and be happy."

"I am too busy to climb trees," said the boy.

"I want a house to keep me warm," he said.

"I want a wife and I want children,

and so I need a house.

Can you give me a house ?"

" I have no house," said the tree.

"The forest is my house,

but you may cut off

my branches and build a

house. Then you will be happy."

And so the boy cut off her branches

and carried them away

to build his house.

And the tree was happy.

But the boy stayed away for a long time.

And when he came back,

the tree was so happy

she could hardly speak.

"Come, Boy," she whispered,

"come and play."

"I am too old and sad to play,"

said the boy.

"I want a boat that will

take me far away from here.

Can you give me a boat?"

"Cut down my trunk

and make a boat," said the tree.

"Then you can sail away...

and be happy."

And so the boy cut down her trunk

and made a boat and sailed away.

And the tree was happy

... but not really.

And after a long time

the boy came back again.

"I am sorry, Boy,"

said the tree," but I have nothing

left to give you -

My apples are gone."

"My teeth are too weak

for apples," said the boy.

"My branches are gone,"

said the tree. " You

cannot swing on them - "

"I am too old to swing

on branches," said the boy.

"My trunk is gone, " said the tree.

"You cannot climb - "

"I am too tired to climb" said the boy.

"I am sorry," sighed the tree.

"I wish that I could give you something....

but I have nothing left.

I am just an old stump.

I am sorry...."

"I don't need very much now," said the boy.

"just a quiet place to sit and rest.

I am very tired."

"Well," said the tree, straightening

herself up as much as she could,

"well, an old stump is good for sitting and resting

Come, Boy, sit down. Sit down and rest."

And the boy did.

And the tree was happy.