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Karen joined Momma on May 12, 2025 for a live Q&A via Twitch and YouTube to talk about Grief & Loss
About Karen
Karen brings 23 years of corporate experience and a transformative personal journey to her groundbreaking grief support work. After a devastating fire claimed her sister's life, she became a Certified Rapid Transformational Therapy Practitioner and Grief Educator dedicated to reimagining loss support.
Karen challenges the traditional "time heals" approach, offering innovative methods that help people rediscover themselves when everything has changed. Her work goes beyond coping—it's about transforming grief, finding meaning, and honoring deep personal pain.
Socials / Links for Guest Connection
Website - www.atmalogy.net
Free Grief Reality Checklist, Hypnosis Recording for Integrating Grief & Loss, Unattended Grief Guide & more - https://stan.store/grieflosslove
LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/karen-taylor-5b81b2199
TikTok - https://www.tiktok.com/@grieflosslove?_t=ZP-8wCUo0NThMM&_r=1
References / Things Mentioned During the Stream
Book Recommendations:
True Crime Fascination: Laci Peterson Case
Favorite Poem: Still I Rise by Maya Angelou
Episode Summary
If you’ve ever struggled with loss, felt unsure how to support someone grieving, or wondered why you’re not “moving on” fast enough, this episode is for you.
Key Takeaways
Grief is a universal experience that everyone faces.
Society often lacks understanding and support for grief.
Balancing work and self-care is crucial for those in grief work.
Grief can stem from various types of loss, not just death.
Time alone does not heal grief; engagement and understanding are key.
Grief can resurface unexpectedly, and it's important to allow those feelings.
Unprocessed grief can manifest in various ways.
Hypnosis can aid in addressing deep-seated grief.
Grounding techniques help manage fresh grief.
It's important to allow yourself to grieve without pressure.
Reclaiming identity after loss is a journey of self-discovery.
Death teaches us valuable lessons about life.
In this episode of Even Tacos Fall Apart, MommaFoxFire sat down with grief educator and coach Karen Taylor for a raw conversation about loss and what it means to live with it. Karen’s path into this work began after her sister died in a house fire in 2019. The loss turned her life upside down, and she realized how poorly equipped most of us are when it comes to handling grief. Outdated models like the “five stages of grief” left her feeling broken because they didn’t reflect her lived experience. That realization pushed her to train as a grief coach and educator, determined to bring a modern, compassionate perspective to how we support each other.
Karen explained the difference between grief and grieving. Grief itself is the pain and emotion tied to what we’ve lost. It never goes away because it’s bound to the love and attachment we still hold. Grieving, on the other hand, is the longer-term process of adapting to life after a loss. That can involve rediscovering who we are once the roles we’ve lived in shift (like becoming a widow, losing a parent, or even facing divorce or job loss). She emphasized that grief isn’t limited to death. Any major change, even the absence of a childhood we needed but didn’t have, can leave behind grief.
One theme Karen returned to again and again is how badly society handles grief. In the weeks right after a loss, people swarm in with food, calls, and cards. But around the two-month mark, support often dries up just as the hardest part sets in. That’s when loneliness and pain deepen. For Karen, the lesson is simple: there are no perfect words to offer, only presence. Just showing up and continuing to acknowledge the person or loss matters far more than any attempt to fix things.
She also talked about the responsibility grieving people have to speak up about what they need. When her father died, Karen realized she had to clearly communicate her needs to her partner instead of expecting him to guess. That meant asking for regular time to talk about her dad, more hugs, and not being treated as broken. Setting boundaries and naming needs transformed how she was supported.
Karen addressed some common myths too. The idea that “time heals all wounds” is misleading. Time alone doesn’t do anything... it’s what you do with that time that matters. Grief will resurface in unexpected moments years later. A song, a smell, or an anniversary can bring back a wave of pain, and that’s normal. The goal isn’t to “get over” grief but to learn how to carry it alongside love and meaning.
She described practical tools she uses with clients, like the “loss inventory,” where people go back through their lives to name losses they never recognized as grief. She also uses hypnosis to bypass surface thoughts and help people revisit stuck emotions.
The conversation underscored that grief is deeply individual. There’s no one right way to do it, and there’s no finish line. What matters is honesty, compassion, and continuing to talk about the people we’ve lost so they aren’t erased from memory.
Still I Rise
Maya Angelou
You may write me down in history
With your bitter, twisted lies,
You may trod me in the very dirt
But still, like dust, I'll rise.
Does my sassiness upset you?
Why are you beset with gloom?
’Cause I walk like I've got oil wells
Pumping in my living room.
Just like moons and like suns,
With the certainty of tides,
Just like hopes springing high,
Still I'll rise.
Did you want to see me broken?
Bowed head and lowered eyes?
Shoulders falling down like teardrops,
Weakened by my soulful cries?
Does my haughtiness offend you?
Don't you take it awful hard
’Cause I laugh like I've got gold mines
Diggin’ in my own backyard.
You may shoot me with your words,
You may cut me with your eyes,
You may kill me with your hatefulness,
But still, like air, I’ll rise.
Does my sexiness upset you?
Does it come as a surprise
That I dance like I've got diamonds
At the meeting of my thighs?
Out of the huts of history’s shame
I rise
Up from a past that’s rooted in pain
I rise
I'm a black ocean, leaping and wide,
Welling and swelling I bear in the tide.
Leaving behind nights of terror and fear
I rise
Into a daybreak that’s wondrously clear
I rise
Bringing the gifts that my ancestors gave,
I am the dream and the hope of the slave.
I rise
I rise
I rise.